Chiang Mai

A few years ago there were several bars where you could pick up girls, but
nothing  comparable to the bars in Nana Plaza,Bangkok. In June 97 there
were two bars with available topless dancers. The better is the "Spotlight
Bar" on the East side of the old city. This is open from 10 am and from 12
noon - 8 pm shows western satellite sports on a big screen. At 8 pm  the
girls come out and dance down the centre of the bar. Most are topless, but
have silly stickers on their nipples, no nude dancing here.  They also have
some "apprentices" who do not dance but can be bought out. Some of them are
too shy, others told me that they were too new, one told me that she was
not beautiful enough, but I found later that that was not true. The quality
of the girls is mixed, some are up to the best Bangkok standards, others
are not. Almost all had been at the bar for less than three months. Some
are students at Chiang Mai University.  Although typically 30 girls were
present at 8 pm, most are bought out before midnight. My experience is that
the girls who do not dance are best value (but you do not see exactly what
you are getting), they (and the dancers) can be bought out for 500 - 600
Baht (or 1000 - 1400 baht for the night) with a bar fine of 400 baht. They
will ask for 600-800 The girls are often very shy until you get them into
your hotel room, some will not even let you touch them or sit on your knee
until you have paid the bar fine, but after that the value for money is
superb.
Many are sexually un-atuned to Western methods, if you ask for French they
will not understand, most will do it if you explain, but they expect a half
and half. I did not meet anyone who would do anal, but their vaginal
technique is good. I sometimes worried that I might hurt them, I am 6 foot
4 inches and about 230 pounds and the Thai girls are often well under 5
foot and weigh perhaps less than 90 pounds, but it was never a problem As
always in Thailand, be gentle and friendly; you will get exceptional
treatment.

The girls get about 3000 baht per month from the bar management for the
first month, after that they are dependent on the payments that you make
and about 30 baht per ladydrink. A thank-you of a  hundred baht is always
welcome and may be a good investment if you go back to the same bar. The
girls talk to each other!

The other interesting bar in Chiang Mai is a few doors to the South. I felt
uncomfortable here even in the company of Thais, the girls are of poor
quality, but  late you will see some "cabaret" acts that are of the
upstairs Patpong style but without the hassle. Worth calling in when the
Spotlight closes at 2 or 3 am.

Other bars in Chiang Mai are advertised in the press, I visited all of them
but non were of interest.


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Date: Sat, 12 Jul 1997 02:24:15 +0000

In Chang Mai and Chang Rai, I would try the Karioke bars.  You will see
hostess either standing outside or sitting in front of the place.  They
are not there to help you sing!
Great area.  Chang Rai is much smaller but a really neat city which I
much prefer.  Try riding an elephant in the country after you ride what
ever else you desire.  By the way, the women in the north are much more
beautiful, with lighter skin than in the south.  Have fun!

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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:32:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Update on Thailand

Chiang Mai:
Also changed a bit in the last five years. Fewer bars and more traffic. I
rented a small motorbike for 200 Baht for 24 hours and took in the sights
outside of town. This I recommend. Can see so much more on your own than with
a tour.

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 00:06:12
Subject: Massage parlor in Chiang Mai, Thailand

The Sayuri Complex is situated some few minutes by tuktuk at 3 Soi 2
Bumrungat Road, across the river. It offers a snooker club, a thai
style "coffee shop": dark and with noisy music performance, and a
clinic for traditional health massage. And sinful sex massage for 1500
baht per session in another department. I have had both fine times and
so-and-so experiences there.

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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 1998 08:55:39 +0100 (MET)
Subject: Sayuri - Chaing Mai Thailand

I found a great massage place in Chiang Mai lately. It's called Sayuri
and it is located east of the river. Every tuk-tuk driver knows about
it. It's pretty big and is very nice inside, not sleazy at all. It's in
the Bangkok mold of large parlors, probably 50-60 women working. I paid
1800 Baht (about $35US) for the usual 1 1/2 hour body massage/whatever
else I could think of to do. Highly recommended!


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