Dominican Republic for many years and can give you a few tips. Whatever else you do, be sure to check out Hermina's Nightclub on Maximo Gomez Avenue near the National Cemetery. Don't worry, every cab driver knows where it is. You will find tables around a large dance fllo with ladies of every description walking around. Some may come over to sit with you. Be polite, but firm, and tell them that you'd like to talk later- otherwise you won't get to pick the lady you'd really like. After you do find someone, you can either buy her a drink (but the girls don't work on kickbacks, so there is no pressure), or ask to take her off the floor. She will take you to the cashier to buy a "salida" which is permission to take you to her room upstairs. *BE SURE TO NEGOTIATE PRICE BEFORE TAKING OFF YOUR CLOTHES* otherwise you'll be in for a surprise. Settle on a firm price for the service you want, if you can't, tell her that you'll go back downstairs. BE FIRM! After that, have fun- and always practice safe sex. The ladies are more than willing to work in groups of two, three, or as many as you want- for their usual fee of course. If you prefer the street, go to the south end of Abraham Lincoln Avenue. There you will find a globe of the world (in bad condition) and many happy hookers. Again, negotiate price beforehand. While I have never had any trouble, nor do I know anyone who had, the street scene is, by its nature, tricker than in a "house," There are numerous houses operating in the area of Maria Montas Street near the corner of Maximo Gomez. Quality varies. For up to the minute information, discreetly give a "trafico" transit policeman ten dollars and he'll put you on the right path. NOTE: While prostitution is not legal, it is practiced openly and widely in the city of Santo Domingo, and perhaps other regions that I don't know. CAUTION: The Dominican Republic is incredibly harsh on drugs. If a person is found with the least measurable amount of anything illegal, he is going to go to jail and stay there for a month until he gets to see a judge and pay his fine and be deported. If you want drugs, go to Holland or Jamaica. FOr women, the City of Santo Doming in the Dominican Republic is hard to beat. Rating: 4 1/2 pussies =========================================================================== Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 04:58:24 -0700 Subject: DR I've got a number of experiences which may be of interest but I'll just send something brief for now. (Obviously) don't use my adress for anything besides replying, which is OK.
I lived in the Dominican Republic from '91 to '93 and again for four months in '96. My comments may be most useful to those who speak Spanish and understand Latin culture. (In fact, I find that everyone else generally fucks things up for the rest of us.) Inasmuch as prostitution can be a rewarding experience anywhere--the DR has wonderful possibilities. Prostitution jives fairly well with the culture, Dominican women are beautiful, prices are excellent, and you have a fair chance of being treated well. (Don't discount the possiblity of a non-monetary relationship with a Dominican woman. It's not a hard thing to come by and--in my experience--is more rewarding.) You've gotta understand what a "tigre" is in the DR. It's simply "tiger" in Spanish, but the Domincan tigre is a unique animal. It has to do with wits, self confidence, street smarts, daring, even sense of humor. It can be good or bad. In your case, it's good. You want to be a tigre. If you aren't, you're going to get screwed over. (Of course, if that's what you expect, you don't even need to read this.) You see, the average Dominican man is a bit of a tigre. He's your competition. Don't be surprised to see Dominican whores turning you down for the poor-ass Dominican construction worker sitting next to you. It could happen. The pitiful thing is, he's paying half of what you are. Thus the fun is to beat Domincans at their own game. It's not too hard and it hella fun. But if most Dominicans wear a couple of tiger stripes, then everyone in the sex business has got whiskers, ears and tails. We're talking some hardcore rip off artists. Not bad people mind you--they really are artists of a sort. Anyway, the trick is to be one step ahead of them. Try to figure them out. You might think you'll get 'em pissed off and end up in a gutter with one of those little dagger-like punales (that Dominican bad guys carry) in your stomach. On the contrary, tigres like tigres. They'll respect your pluck and allow you to play the game Dominican style. The'll respect your confidence and assume that you're either related to some local military official, or that you're carrying a gun. (I was walking through a bad barrio once and some young street tigres came up to me and said, "You gotta gun or you know karate?" Why? I asked. "Cause nobody fuckin' stupid enough come walking through here unless they gotta gun or they know karate." I told 'em "both." They laughed, satisfied with their analytic ability, and let me keep going.) Enough on theory, here are my tips on playing the game Dominican style, based on my 20 or so forarys in search of paid sex in the DR--mostly in the big cities--Santo Domingo and Santiago. I'm assuming that your objectives are 1) Fine young babes w/o a lot of attitude , 2) Rockbottom prices, 3) Staying alive, and 4) Getting to know a bit about Dominican culture in the process. My comments are in relation to picking chics up off the street (or beach) or at bars/clubs where the chics are employed at waitresses or dancers. There are places where the chics don't do anything--just sit there and wait for you to purchase them, but I don't know these places too well, and I find them high pressure. You need some space to move and some time to think in order to be able to get your shit together. I find that sipping a beer and watching a fine brown-sugar Dominican teenager take off her clothes and shake her ass like only Dominican chics can does wonders for clearing your mind and getting up your guts (not to mention you cock) for the bargaining process. 1) If you're surrounded by Germans, Americans or English you're on the wrong path. 2) You don't need a club full of tens. You just need one 10. Go where the locals go and take the best chic there. 3) There is always a good deal of shit going on behind the scenes in the sex business in the DR. Most of it just means you're losing money. Some of it could be worse. 4) It all comes down to how many babies this chic has crying at home, how desperate she is, her feelings about getting fucked by you, and your budget/stinginess/generosity. 5) Club owners (who often treat the girls like shit) get rich selling you overpriced drinks and charging you exit fees to take the girls out. Your money would be of more use to you if it went to the girls (and to them, too). 6) Streetwalkers and beachwalkers can be dirt cheap. Among them there have got to be a few cute ones. Plenty of young ones. (And, of course, some pretty nasty-ass stuff too.) 7) Plan on spending the night. You can get the by-the-hour bullshit in the U.S. Any hotel that you're going to stay in is nicer than the girl's house. She really looses nothing by staying with you (unless she's got kids to get back to.) I'm reading shit about pendejos paying $120 for less than an hour in Mexico NOT INCLUDING cover charges, taxis and a lot of other bizarre shit. From my experience, that's pretty out of control. 8) Do not spend the night in a whorehouse--a club with a hotel on back!! You are at the mercy of a whole zoo full of tigres. You have no bargaining power, not to mention security. 9) Get the chic out of her comfort zone and into yours. Try to make her deal with you on your terms. Take her to a hotel where you've already got an undestanding with the folks there. She will assume you know what you're doing. 10) Make the taxi drivers work for you. They are your ticket to getting in and out of places you don't want to be for very long. They know all the clubs, the prices, the hotels, how to deal with the chics, etc. 11)There is no set price on anything in the DR--and that's half the fun. Use all your wit, charm, and sex appeal, and bargain like hell. Find out at what price the chic would rather just hang out in the club and mooch beers; then offer her 10 pesos more. (Feel free to give her any kind of a tip, gift, etc. after--you'll feel good about that. But you shouldn't feel good about just opening up your wallet and letting her take what she wants--which seems to be what most people do.) A Dominican would be a fool if she didn't triple or quadruple her price for someone with sucky Spanish--she just might get it. Even with darn-good Dominican Spanish I find that my gringo looks are usually enough to get me a doubled price the first time I ask. Competition is the name of the game. What kind of price does she have to offer to keep you from walking across the street to another bar or talking to the next streetwalker? Don't expect much competition within the same club. In fact, you can assume that everyone inside the place (and many of the taxi drivers outside) are in cahoots. They have a million brilliant rip-off schemes. 12) About half of the girls have a shot at being straightforward and decent with you--even pleasant. I mean, who wants to fuck a bitch? Prostitution is fantasy-land, but without the fantasy what do you have? A chance at getting AIDS? You want someone who plays the part. Somebody who'll give you a little lovin' not just spread their legs. Like I say, half of them aren't going to work. But the other half will. The trick is knowing who's who before you shut the hotel room door. It's not easy. They will often to a 180--flirt, dance, touch, sweet talk you beforehand and then totally bitch out on you behind closed doors: complain, rush you, try to get more money, tell you that your can't do this or that. Take your time. See how far you can get before you have to pay them. (I often pay after the fact.) Ask them if they like to go to the beach? Which one? Are they free tomorrow? They think they're practically married at that point. Tell 'em all about yourself. Make friends with them. That goes a long way. Take them out of one club and bring them to another--like a date. Totally throw them off.
13) The strip clubs can be fun. I like watching the show. Some of the chics get into it and some don't. Some are even really shy about taking off their clothes (which they have to do every third dance), which can be kind of interesting. Use this as an opportunity to scope the situation. Ask the price of a beer from the taxi driver, offer that much money for one beer (the corner stores which are everywhere have excellent prices on beer as well as rum so you can drunk off you ass without paying a fortune), drink it slowly, and graciously refuse all the attempts of all the chics to come on to you (and the waiters to set you up with chics). All the chics want is for you to buy alcohol for them, because they get a cut. (I seriously think a lot of them are almost ambivalent about going to the hotel with you. Some of them just refuse. They must make a decent amount just staying at the club.) If they actually drunk all the rum that they can get you to pay for, they'd die of alcohol poisoning. (That's why the club brings them juice or water or whatever shit and charges you exorbitant prices.) You have no better chance of anything after you buy a chic 5 drinks than you do before you spent the money. The second you hestiate to get her another whatever-it-is-she-wants (including food) she'll go sit next to some other dude. This is pretty much a hard and fast motherfuckin' rule. So until you know who it is you want, refuse all the chics with a big smile. This will puzzle them and when you eventually call one over to your table, you're already at an advantage. You can point, hiss, motion or tell the waiter who you want. She'll come instantly. Buy her a drink and try to figure her out as fast as you can--before she asks for more. If you don't like her, don't buy her another drink--make excuses about money and this and that--she'll leave. Then motion another one over. If you like her, get right to the point and somehow get across what you want and what you want to pay. She'll easily ask double to begin with. Laugh and bring her down 50% and go from there. If she's good to go, either go or find out when she can go. (Maybe she has to dance again, pay a bar fine in order to leave, or wait until closing time; maybe tomorrow is a better day--if you can wait you might get a killer deal.) Once you have an understanding with her she'll stop wasting your money on drinks. Tell her you want to save the cash for her and that you'll stop by the colmado to buy shit on the way to the hotel. Once you've got an agreement, you're set. She'll sit on you lap and act like your girlfriend until you leave the bar or club. The secret is to figure out what you want (and also plan B and C) before you ask for it. You don't want to be stuck buying drinks for the first chic that sees you just because she sat down next to you and rested her hand in your crotch. Wait till you see what the options are. 14) Know exactly what you're going to get and how much it will cost before money exchanges hands. This is absolutely critical. Otherwise you will pretty definitely get screwed. Use sign language or whatever to describe every possible favor that you would like and get an OK on it. Get a time frame!!!! Offer her half now and half in the morning. This is the hardest part, but it works out best for everybody. Think of every possible way she could rip you off: won't give you head without a condom, won't let you kiss her or touch her hair, says that now you came, it's all over, says she has to back and dance at the club, says that this or that costs extra. You can expect this stuff. 15) If you are in the process of getting ripped off you're hating it. If you're inside a whore house, you're fucked. If you complain, the chic will complain and they'll kick your ass out the door whether you just barely took your shoes off or not. If you're at a hotel it depends on whether or not you've paid the money. If she's bitchin' out on you and you haven't paid, let her go. She'll go find some penejo who's easier to push around. If you've paid part, try to get your money's worth and let her go. Don't be violent but don't be a pushover. If you were Dominican you could be strong with her and demand that she fufill her part of the bargain, but no one will probably appreciate a foreigner coming over and getting all pissed off and outraged at local girls. And they'll believe her story, not yours. But a Dominican man probably wouldn't get a peso less action than what he paid for. If you can convince her that you're coming from the same place, you're cool. If you're at a hotel which specializes in this kind of thing, the desk person may step in to arbitrate the situation. If she robs you people will probably believe you. But be careful--Dominican guys falsely accuse hookers all the time just to get a free ride. Everything you read at this site about getting robbed applied. I would guess that at least 20% of what the chics makes is stuff she picks up through slight of hand.
16) Pick a good hotel beforehand. Curiosity alone will encourage her to spend the night in see a nice, well-known joint(but the price of the hotel may defeat your purpose). In the DR, cheap is cheap. I feel very ripped off if I pay over $15--unless it's a nice place as in cable, AC, etc. Dominicans (who use hotels a lot) certainly don't pay much more than that. It's fine to stay in a poor part of town (and I've checked into many red-light district whore-tells chock full of local tigres gettin' in on with the local chicks.) But remember, prostitution, robbery, extorsion, protection, drugs, the police--it's all the same business. It might be good to find a humble but secure hotel (bars over everything) a little way from the clubs themselves. Get an understanding with the owner or whoever beforehand. Tell them you'll be bringing your girlfriend up later. Some places may not allow that and some places may think it's an incovenience to have you coming in very late--most won't. Some hotel folk will be convinced that you are out of your mind, lost, or both. But unless they seem adamant about your safety, wink at them, say something about being a tigre, and you should be set. Dominican hotels are a never-ending series of metal gates. Make sure you can get them open at the time you want to get in, make sure that they get closed behind you, and make sure that you have a reasonable chance of getting out in a hurry. If your girl goes ballistic or the drunk guy next door goes off, you gotta leave. Some hotels which are set up for this kind of thing won't let your girl out the gate unless you say she can go. That's a plus. Keeps the chics from pulling a fast one. Obviously you don't carry an extra peso or anything valuable. It would be very rare if you came out of the 'hood physically hurt in the DR. But it would also be rare if you came out with all the money you went in with--they'll get it one way or another. I've been stuck up and what amounted to being stuck up more than once. No prob--just fork over the money and go back to your other hotel on the safe side of town and get some more. Everything you read on this site about chics working in pairs is true--one fucks you and the other empties your pockets and your room. You'll never see what happened. They're experts. 16) Be very, very cautious about being alone with people who know each other. This can be hooker friends, a hooker and a taxi driver, a pimp and a hooker, a hotel person and a hooker, a hooker and her "little sister." They've got some very clever scam worked up that you'll probably never fully understand but which will empty your pockets all the same. Keep everybody off guard and on your terms. 17) Don't walk on the streets at night in bad areas (areas full of hookers)!! Taxis are cheap enough when you have an explicit understanding of where you're going and how much it is before you get in. Taxistas are as down and out as everybody else in the DR and can't afford not to accept your price. You can work all kinds of deals with them--stop to pick up a chic, stop at the ATM, stop to buy a beer. You can cruise up and down Durarte or La Feria or wherever there are street hookers from the safety of a taxi. They'll come up to the window to make your shopping easier. Your taxi driver is cool with all this and will help you move the ugly ones along and keep the cute one's coming. When you find what you like, she hops in. Try to plan out your route before you get in a taxi and give them a price. Indecision costs a lot. Again, there are no set prices, though there may be rules of thumb--ask a civilian not a taxi driver. Average fare in Santo Domingo should be under 60 pesos ($US 4.60); in Santiago 40 ($US 2.60). It is cheaper if you call a taxi than taking one of the ones in front of the club. Numbers are everywhere. Folks at the club will call for you. Taxi companies have their own more or less set prices. Unlike street prices, these shouln't go up at night (very much). Ask the fare over the telephone. If you are in a bind--and the driver knows it--and can't call a taxi or find competition, unless you have to cross the river that runs throught the middle of Santo Domingo (an opportunity to charge more) or go clear the hell to the other side of town, even at night you shouldn't pay more than 85 pesos (US$6.50) in the capital or 50 pesos (US$3.80) in Santiago (where taxis are dirt cheap). If they laugh at you, try a couple of other taxistas before you let them raise you. Competion here can be fierce. But don't let the same taxi dude trail you around. He'll custom create a scam just for you if you give him the time. When you're off to point x tell him (and everyone else who asks) to meet you at point y. You don't need any fuckin' shadows. One thing I like to do when I'm going into a club I don't know is invite the taxi guy in for a beer. He'll be delighted. One he couldn't normally afford the beer, two he gets to walk into the middle of a shitload of fine women with everyone thinking he's got foreign connections, and three he thinks he'll get another fare out of you when you want to leave. Fuck that last part--he might be plastered. Give him the slip beforehand. But by walking in with him you won't get all the motherfuckin' what-the-hell-is-this-white-dude-doing-in-here stares (which amounts only to curiosity--almost no one in the DR has anything against you no matter who you are) and people will think "your friend" is going to keep you from getting ripped off. He may or may not be able to do that. It's possible that you--who've got the cash flow--have as much close-up experience with this kind of thing as he does. If you have to walk a block or so between clubs in the cities don't go slow, but don't look nervous. Stay where it's light. Ignore everyone you see or give them a casual "sup?" Try to look like a CIA agent. Everyone assumes you are anyway. Everyone white (according to Dominicans) is either a tourist, a CIA agent, or a Mormon missionary. All the tourists are on the beach, and you sure as fuck can't be a Mormon missionary. SO WHAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE? Sure all this tigre-undercover agent shit sounds potential amusing, but what's it worth? Well, in general I never pay more than $40 bucks to spend the night with an attractive young female. (I've found that a lot of Dominican hookers are under 18. 16 and 17 is common. They seem to tell the truth about their age--though I can't imagine why there isn't something better for them to tell.) I shoot for $30. A blow job can be $15. We're talking thin teenage chics, nice skin, big tits. If something goes wrong it's not that the price goes up. They tell you any price as long as they think that they can give you less time or less action than your what you're paying for. Of course, if you've managed to establish some kind of a relationship--you're supposedly going to the beach tomorrow, you are a repeat customer, they like you, etc., you can relax. But that's the bottom line for a night of sex. Some girls like sex and will take as much as you can give. So if you pay $15 for the hotel, $15 on taxis, no more than $10 to get the chic out of the club (if that is necessary--these things are always negotiable--if she's a tigre she can give the bar the slip as easily as she can you) very little on drinks (at least the ones you buy in a bar), you're looking at a NIGHT of sex for $80. You'll be lucky if you can pay that for an HOUR in the U.S. (and Mexico--according to some of these poor guys.) You should end up with plenty of pesos to give her something extra to take home for her babies--which is immensely more satisfying than having it extracted from you like blood. More later.
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